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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.01.10 12:19:00 -
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Just checked the numbers so I wouldn't be talking out my butt:
dmg mod / rof / activation cost
800mm Rep. Art. 2.59 / 7.88 / 0
Neutron Bls Cann. 3.5 / 7.88 / 18.2
3.5 / 2.59 = 1.35
So a neutron blaster does 35% more dps than an 800mm repeating artillary. It's quite a substancial increase. If you prioritize dps like I do, you'd use neutrons every time.
It sucks to lose because you god nos'd (and it will happen often if you're using t1 ammo). It's possible to tank all dps even from t2 ammo, it's just rare to run into a tank that strong. (Like farjung's vindicator setup could tank around 1000 dps iirc).
-Bart
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.01.15 18:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Dixon
Originally by: Sir Bart
dmg mod / rof / activation cost
800mm Rep. Art. 2.59 / 7.88 / 0
Neutron Bls Cann. 3.5 / 7.88 / 18.2
3.5 / 2.59 = 1.35
Those numbers are a bit off:
800mm Rep. Art. 2.695 / 7.88 / 0
Neutron Bls Cann. 3.5 / 7.88 / 18.2
and you have to account for the bonuses, 25% damage is not the same dps increase as 25% RoF. But the difference is still about 20% in favor of blasters.
Just double checked my numbers and you're correct on the values; however, you don't take bonuses into account, we're comparing guns, not ships.
Correct difference is 29.8%
-Bart
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.01.15 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Sir Bart
Just checked the numbers so I wouldn't be talking out my butt:
dmg mod / rof / activation cost
800mm Rep. Art. 2.59 / 7.88 / 0
Neutron Bls Cann. 3.5 / 7.88 / 18.2
3.5 / 2.59 = 1.35
So a neutron blaster does 35% more dps than an 800mm repeating artillary. It's quite a substancial increase. If you prioritize dps like I do, you'd use neutrons every time.
It sucks to lose because you god nos'd (and it will happen often if you're using t1 ammo). It's possible to tank all dps even from t2 ammo, it's just rare to run into a tank that strong. (Like farjung's vindicator setup could tank around 1000 dps iirc).
-Bart
now see if that 35% or so is enough to run the target's cap dry before you yourself run out of cap and tank. Fast forward: it won't.
If you're talking about a ship vs ship fight, there's a lot more factors involved than what guns you use, although I can tell you, my megathron has beat a lot of tempests, domi's and ravens, and tbh, it's not even close, I roast them. (I've ran into a raven before that could beat me but he had no scram so not a very fair comparison).
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Sir Bart
Vendetta Underground
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Posted - 2007.01.17 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dixon
Comparing the guns without using the bonuses isn't a fair comparison. Every single minmatar ship receives that RoF bonus and all gallente blasterships get that damage bonus, to compare without the bonuses is like comparing laser cap usage before the 10% per level reduction.
It a fair comparison of guns. My point is that comparing ships simply by looking at the damage their guns do and the amount of cap they consume is not a fair comparison. There's a lot more to a ship than it's weaponry.
So, comparing ships, requires many many factors, comparing guns, requires only looking at the attributes of those guns. It's too bad that some devs think the way you do because beams and rails are identical if you take ship bonuses on a Apoc and Megathron (same dps, same tracking, mega has more range, apoc uses more cap)
-Bart
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